Destroyer Build Needed

[_ryuuhei]

Hi all!
I need a destroyer build, gonna make a damage dealer as human which is best for that. My Path:
Fighter > Warrior > Merc > Gladiator > Destroyer

And ofcourse Pure Str :]

So all i need now is the skill build, Any professional peoples here that can share ?

What i have so far was from another guide, but idk if it goes up to Destroyer :\

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2 handed training - max(your atk passive)

sword training - 5 (leave it at lvl 5. 15sp for 4% atk is ok. 40sp for another 3.75% is not)

Upper Swing - 10(get to 1 till lvl 30+ when u have extra sp for lvl 40 2nd tier - AoE)

Crash Blow - 1(or dont get. good for combo with rising strike earlier on or max it if u like to go 1v1)

Enhance HP - max(or dont get at all. for me 250~ hp is worth it.

Burning Rage - max(humans only. if u have enhance hp, it will help cancel the side effect)

Fighter Heart - max(str buff)

Sword Rapidity - dont get.(adds atk spd but i dont notice the difference. you will be using skills mainly later on.)

Warrior Form - max(this is your 2nd tier atk buff)

Risk Taker- max(hp<30% attack increase.)

NOTE: THERE IS A BUG - relog after adding risk taker will increase your attack permernantly!

Wheel Wind -1 at least(AoE for training purposes)

Body Check - 1(boss or PVP use)

EarthQuake -max(for nukers)

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Thanks!

[silentwhim]

first of all... the pure damage path is pretty bad o_O you get the highest damage from class change passive(about 3% more) but your average DPS(damage per second) will be really low compare to hybrid damage dealers over even a 5 second interval
wheelwind > earthquake> blazingbody is NOT a good aoe rotation wheelwind does around... 210% base damage, thats 70% hit 3 times. Earthquake a single hard hit aoe, and blazingbody does 200% base damage no bonus. You will have alot of wait time between aoe and just poor output in general. It is recommend that you go atleast swordsman instead of mercenary to get rank 10 swordstorm, and your aoe rotation damage in a 10 second period may even triple than compared with pure path.

HOWEVER! Your path is good 1v1 melee damage, no other path can match that kind of damage, it just seems pretty useless and impossible leveling with 1v1 path all the way to 105 >.>''' plus without hybriding you have zero defenses in pvp, you wont be 1 hitting any mage that hybrid for holy barrier, rogues who stealth, and without spirit sword you'll lose to all tanks.

I wont put so much effort as to give you every skill ranks, some are pretty obvious o-O
risk taker bug is fixed for this version of luna btw,
for passives enhance hp you can max if you want, but only worth wild ranks are 1 11 and 21, every 10 levels you get 1% boost in hp instead of the tiny extra bonus hp.

If you decide on using sword, your "max 2h while leaving weapon training at 5" idea doesn't work.. hmm to explain, all the ranks for both passive ability cost the same amount of sp HOWEVER every rank for 2h increase damage by 1.5% while all ranks for weapon increase damage by .75% thats half for the same amount of sp.

thats why you should rank up 2h twice for every one weapon rank, at gladiator you'll be aiming for 20rank 2h training and 10rank sword training

Sword rapidity, useful in pvp, ALMOST useless everything else :p
wheelwind is one of your main aoes, say you go swordsman, you'll have 4 aoes
swordstorm strongest
earthquake second place
wheelwind third
blazingbody 4th

so you'll be using wheelwind quite often while the first two are on cooldown, you can leave at rank 1, if you want more, MUST get to rank 6 for reduced cooldown.

right now we only have classes up to gladiator, but upcoming releases are scheduled ^^ and will probably be here before anyone on the server even reaches lvl 105.

I must be pretty bored to type this thing up when 2 hours later someone will asks the same question as you. Sigh ... >.>

edit: i will go sleep now

[canisterburn]

Maybe we should sticky a destroyer build guide since almost everyone started out wanting to be a damage dealer, me included. We're seeing a destroyer build thread every 2 days.

[_ryuuhei]

What r u talking about wrong path for damage dealing? It all gives Atk as u can see here: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/d ... assive.png

Btw, it was what i gathered so far, from

http://www.on9g.com/en/viewthread.php?tid=16456


and u should also read that, its best for damage dealing
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=41

Class1
1A Fighter
- Your standard melee character
- Support both 1H and 2H
- Has STR buff

Class2
2B Warrior
- Support 2H
- Has Attack and STR buff
- Has Attack passive (Risk Taker)
- Has NO Heavy Armor Expertise
- Has 1 AOE (Wheelwind)

Class3
3B Mercenary (Human Only)
- Support 2H
- Has Attack and STR buff
- Has Attack passive (Risk Taker)
- Has NO Heavy Armor Expertise
- Has AOE -Def Debuff
- Has 3 AOEs (Wheelwind, Earthquake, Blazing Body)

Class4
4C Gladiator (Human Only)
- Support 2H
- Has Attack and STR buff
- Has Attack passive (Risk Taker)
- Has Attack Speed / Critical Damage buff
- Has NO Heavy Armor Expertise
- Has AOE -Def Debuff
- Has 3 AOEs (Wheelwind, Earthquake, Blazing Body)
- Note: Insane Damage Output

Class5
5C Destroyer (Human Only)
- Upgraded version of Gladiator
- 2H
- Lots of Attack Skills with Stun and Paralysis
- Has NO Heavy Armor Expertise

Class6
6B Death Knight (Human Only)
- Continuation of Destroyer
- Ultimate Attacker & AOEer
- Has highest damage raw damage output of all classes

Why would i even doubt to pick another path?

As u can see all the path except this gives bonus for 1hand/shield.
And the Path i followed is only 2 Hand, and Str buff, and great atk skills, so i dont see ur point, explain please.
And not to be cruel or anything, i didnt want ur opinion about this =D Im very clear to follow this cuz it kinda makes perfect sense, and the person that made it seems to know what his talking about, about everything about Fighter Class and since i wanna be 2Handed Type, and the Path i follow only gives that?, i mean its obvious. But what i asked for was complete other thing, What skills i should max in these paths.

[canisterburn]

I had a level 64 mercenary and a level 62 swordsman.
I intended both to go gladiator->destroyer->death knight.

In parties and while AOEing solo, my swordsman can deal a lot more damage than my merc due to the "ultimate skill" called sword storm. It deals 1.5x the damage of my other aoes. I also get a good heal skill for my squishy self. The merc on the other hand, has great stats on paper but has no heal skills and has that super weak blazing body, which you can get when you turn gladiator anyway.

If you go the full destroyer path, you're strong 1v1 but can't aoe effectively cos you have not enough aoe skills to do it with. Your damage output will be lower than a swordsman path for mobbing; you're weak! No party wants you! You should look at the skills too, just looking at the passive bonus isn't enough.

That's why it's better to go swordsman than mercenary.

[silentwhim]

that chart only shows you class change passives, what i'm talking about is skill combinations
for example going mercenary gladiator will give you all gladiator rank skills and upgrades of mercenary buffs plus i think 3% extra phys damage from class change.

however going swordsman you will obtain spirit sword and swordstorm abilities but missing mercenary buffs, BUT when change class to gladiator you will OBTAIN every skill you missed from mercenary plus all gladiator rank skills and buffs, only thing missing will be you'll get 1% extra phys damage instead of 3% but that sacrifice for swordstorm ability and a 1 second long range sleep skill is worth it, since swordstorm is stronger than earthquake wheelwind and blazingbody in damage.

plus it doesnt matter what class you were before gladiator, class changing to gladiator will always give you the bonus 180 crit chance

edit; its not opinion.. its statistics

[xcassix]

Meh my aoe's as merc right now at lvl 68 are stronger than some mages past 75. Ill agree it isn't the best path to take if you aren't ready to spend A LOT of cash on potions and what not, but if done right (cant give out my secrets) you can do massive aoe dmg even with just those 3 aoe attacks. At the moment im Solo Grinding Ogres using Aoe with no complications I just cant wait till ima Gladiator.

Mmm let me put this out there so you know now you might be spending around 10-40mill by level 50 just on potions at least if your trying to keep it at a steady paste.There is a good chance with this path that you wont even want to finish leveling your merc around level 50 Everyone seems better than you , you are always clicking on potions like their your best skill. If you can find a good Tanker or Healer to become best friends with you it wi'll make it a hell of alot easier on you.

Well thats all for now , ill let you know when i hit 75 and tell you how its going.

Edit: Actually Mmm lol if you can skip merc and go swordsman instead DO IT.
I just like making things harder on myself. You wont be losing much and I think there is more to gain from swordsman. I just wanted take the full on pure path.
Best of luck to you on this path -hueheu- your gonna need it

[silentwhim]

individuals individuals >.>''' lets do this by statistics KK? if you can deal that kind of damage with wheelwind earthquake and blazingbody, what kind of damage will you be dealing with the same gear but with swordstorm doing 200% damage + bonus x 2 and 2% less passive damage? >.> yes I know you agree too that your path ismissing potential skill combinations but I didnt like how you worded it ^^

[_ryuuhei]

Ok ur right , i understand that now, So Path for damage dealer will be

Fighter>Warrior>Swordman>Gladiator>Destroyer>Death Knight?
Correct?

What skills should i max in all these then? Make a list or ill get confused =p cuz i realised those sucked i wrote before, i need a skill build now for this Path, Please u guys seem to be good, Help.

Thanks alot :]

[silentwhim]

see i went to sleep yesterday and this morning there are 3 new fighter topics asking basically teh same thing >.>
sorry making a list would be asking too much
http://www.lunabr.com/en/skillcalc2.php
play around with the skilll cakculator

[_ryuuhei]

Ah ur kidding z.z I dont know which one to take =/ I wrote that at lunch at work, was hoping it would be done by now =/, if i chose the skills by myself, it will get messed up, and the skills from destroyer that will cover up from the Merc, i mean i dont know which skills =/ and go figure people r asking, theres no builds about this o.o not that i can find atleast, lol

[silentwhim]

yes and i took up the time to type up 2 pages or more of replies when I know there are gonna be a billion people like you asking about class questions... really check out the skill calculator first >.>

[_ryuuhei]

Alright, let me be the last person then =P You can priv message me about it =/ Please man, i wont ask for anything else after =/ It will be difficult to find another skilled person to ask, apparently i was wrong when it all seemed obvious , Cant u just write it though priv message? Please :\ it couldnt take too long? ill write the list, u fill in the numbers? =)

[silentwhim]

pick pvp(with ok pve) or PVE(with ok pvp)

[_ryuuhei]

Well what matters now for me is Pve, im lvl 10 and havent picked a skill yet, i will go up to 50 real quick, but for now finding a build before i start with that, so not pvp yet, Only Pve , ill reset in future when im done exping ^^ for pvp build , but like i said, for now only PVE matters to me, so u want me to write down a list and sending u through priv message?

[silentwhim]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2v34i9l.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/v5lpq0.jpg
this is why I wanted you to check out the skill calculator >.>
this is up to lvl 75, from here on max earthquake flamesmash and earthwave

oh editing teh skills a bit I for got to make enhance hp rank 1, leave it at rank 1. You can remove sword rapidity too, dont have to but if you want. That way you'll be done using skill points at lvl 96 with about 100 sp left unused saving up all sp all the way to destroyer.

[_ryuuhei]

Oh i see, thanks alot, but why 1 point on Bloody Sky,Blazing Body,Bleeding Blow? cant i just leave it at 0?

[silentwhim]

bleeding blow helps trying to level to 40, you can remove it if you want
blazingbody gets important when your aoe gets to its 5th rotation and so on
bloody sky rank 1 for soloing when you dont have party or a billion health potions :p since with 1h you can use bloody sky, blazing body and swordstorm aoe.

i;m the type of person who dont like pumping alto of gold just so i can level faster, spending mroe gold on mp potions I dont mind, but the difference in damage taken between shield and without shield is HUGE.

[_ryuuhei]

so i need to switch to 1hand everytime i wanna aoe? =/

So im gonna use 2 Aoes which are rank 1, and then my aoe thats maxed? the damage will be 50. lol

[silentwhim]

you have 4 aoe to use with 2h why would you need the 1h aoe?
blazing body and swordstorm can be used with both 1h and 2h >.< so plus bloody sky you can use 3 aoe with 1h.

[_ryuuhei]

I dont even wanna get a 1hand weapon tho, why should i bother taking on the 1hand aoe

[heyimalex]

so pretty much going swordsman is more beneficial than merc?

[_ryuuhei]

It seems that way with the combo, so its :

Bloody Sky 1/10
Blazing Body 1/15
Bleeding Blow 1/20
Uppercut 10/10
Spirit Sword 10/10
Attract 1/5 <---- Why ?
Fighters Heart 6/6
Burning Rage 2/2
Enhanced HP 1/5
Risk Taker 6/6
Rage Burst 4/4
Warrior Form 6/6
Two handed Training 20/20
Sword Training 10/20
Earthquake 6/10
Wheel Wind 1/15 <---- Why ?
Flame Smash 1/20 <---- Why ?
Earth Wave 1/20 <---- Why ?
Sonic Boom 1/15 <---- Why ?
Sword Storm 10/10

[silentwhim]

thats up to you >.> you wont be any weaker using 1sp on bloodysky, you'll still do the same damage as me, but when a situation calls for wielding a shield as rare as they come, they do exist ^^ Just for 1sp you are efficient enough to be versatile and if you practice fast weapon switching by binding equips on action bars its really good practice.

For example, when level cap was 80 everyone pretty much stopped at 78 because there are no more quests after that. SO I decided to farm orichalcums but aoe farming them with 2h would cost too much potions and no healer is bored enough >.> So I put on a shield 1h and hero helm + boots for 12% phys def set bonus and took under 15 damage per hit and farmed those ogres for hours.

i think you missed when I said

this is up to lvl 75, from here on max earthquake flamesmash and earthwave

wheelwind higher ranks are only worth it at rank 6, so either 1 or 6 you choose
sonicboom is bad damage in general great as a range pull tho.