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Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:33 am

This guide is made purely for Pure Str Human Thief

Rogue -> Ruffian -> Thief -> Assassin
Theres alot of questions going with str or dex is better ? or pure str or pure dex or hybrid ?

Q : What is str for ?
A : Str increases skill damage, physical damage.

Q : What is dex for?
A : dex increases Strike which is accuracy, critical chance, and dodge.

Q : Why str over dex ?
A : Normally when u start to level you will use potions to increase your health so dodge is nothing much although you dodge alot but still your earnings can cover your potion fees. Str of course deal higher dmg, most of thief's skills are bleed for example Dusk Slashing, Wind Breaker. This 2 skills are the most important skills for Rogue class. If you miss monster or when your pvp you miss the opponent no fear,
the bleed effect is still working, eventhough the opponent dodges but it only dodges the initial damage of the skill not the effect and thief's skill chance of bleed is freaking high, Dusk Slashing max is 95% chance to bleed. Despite that your full dex you will still lost to a pure str thief due to accuracy is not a problem for them.

Q : Why Thief and not Scout ?
A : Thief is for 1v1 types and pvp built skills at early levels, scout is useful for pve content due to their buff and healing skill and cure poison. If your looking for pvp and pve choose Thief =) , in addition Thief is the best pvp melee class before 4th stage releases.

Introductions to PvP and Skill rotations in PvP
Normally people will scare to pvp Thiefs due to stealth and sudden combo. Sudden
has chance to deal damage and stuns the opponent for few seconds. So when u pvp please ask them do they want to fight you with stealth or no.

Skill rotation :
(Not Stealthed)
Rage Step -> Rapid Slashing -> Wind Breaker -> Perforate
Just keep repeating your opponent will be killed very fast.

(Stealthed)
Sudden -> Rage Step -> Rapid Slashing -> Wind Breaker -> Perforate

Skill Allocations :
Skills Allocation for Rogue to Ruffian (Lvl 1 to 20)
Dusk Slashing - Lvl 5
Zephyr - Lvl 1
Dagger Training - Lvl 5
Light Evasion - Lvl 2
Blindside - Lvl 1
Light Armor Expertise - Lvl 5
Detect Hole - Lvl 1
Burning Rage - Lvl 1

Skills Allocation for Ruffian to Thief (Lvl 21 to 40)
Dusk Slashing - Lvl 10
Zephyr - Lvl 2
Detect Hole - Lvl 2
Light Evasion - Lvl 4
Light Armor Expertise - Lvl 9
Blindside - Lvl 2
Shadow Instinct - Lvl 2
Diabolic Instinct - Lvl 2
Wind Breaking - Lvl 5
Dagger Training - Lvl 10
Quick Move - Lvl 1
Rage Step - Lvl 1
Burning Rage - Lvl 2

Skills Allocation for Thief to Assassin (Lvl41 to 75)
Rapid Slashing - Lvl 15
Prerforate - Lvl 1
Sudden - Lvl 1
Stealth - Lvl 1
Light Armor Expertise - Lvl 10
Detect Hole - Lvl 4
Rage Step - Lvl 10
Light Evasion - Lvl 7
Blindside - Lvl 4
Shadow Instinct - Lvl 4
Diabolic Instinct - Lvl 4
(Left over SP PLEASE KEEP FOR 4TH STAGE !!)

The skill build may differs from this version of Luna so information may not be the same
Any Questions feel free to post here i'll reply them if i see it.
I will update every skills when i make a thief now i'm on my infantryman so not free atm =)
Last edited by bonicz on Wed May 27, 2009 7:44 pm, edited 9 times in total.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:34 am

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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:37 am

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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby xshuuyux » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:17 am

nice i make a assasin but whats is the correct stats for assa can you say me?
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:14 am

i would prefer u choose str since most ppl will be playing thief class and when thief vs thief its not a matter of hitting or not its the matter of who gets stunned first and bleed to death lol
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby cattle » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:42 am

Have you heard of the pure vitality AoE thief?

Does that work? My friend was intent on creating one.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby aylio » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:21 pm

no archer section bionic T_T
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby shoric » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:35 pm

Needs improvement Bionic :/
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:10 pm

aylio wrote:no archer section bionic T_T

i'm not a fan of archer ask luv to make one LOL
cattle wrote:Have you heard of the pure vitality AoE thief?

Does that work? My friend was intent on creating one.

i using pure str i aoe fine lol pure vit reduce abit of dmg but ur dmg output is low thats all it does work just abit of increasing and decreasing of something
shoric wrote:Needs improvement Bionic :/

and may i ask which area needs improvement, its Bonic not Bionic
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby wuklvn » Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:33 pm

Nice guide, very helpful. Just have a question about gear, so you would pretty much get all +STR gear and sets? Or you think it would be okay to get some DEX or would the buffs/passives be enough?
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby cinderboy » Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:34 pm

Its much better to go pure dex for dagger rogue and then upgrade equipments with str.

I never saw any high lvl pure str dagger rogue on the SG server.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby wuklvn » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:36 pm

cinderboy wrote:Its much better to go pure dex for dagger rogue and then upgrade equipments with str.

I never saw any high lvl pure str dagger rogue on the SG server.


Hmm would you say the same for a VIT rogue? DEX in dagger? Worth it to put STR into gloves? or where ever you can to get more phy attack?
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby staticforte » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:46 am

I've seen pure dex rogue. They just use +str equipment all the time.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:56 am

i'm lvl70 pure str thief now i have a full vit set except the glove upgrade, and a full str set
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby cinderboy » Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:59 am

bonicz wrote:i'm lvl70 pure str thief now i have a full vit set except the glove upgrade, and a full str set


How did you get to lvl 70 on the official English server when mobs are only until lvl 60 ? After lvl 66, mobs give less than 50% of their EXP.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby cinderboy » Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:10 am

wuklvn wrote:
cinderboy wrote:Its much better to go pure dex for dagger rogue and then upgrade equipments with str.

I never saw any high lvl pure str dagger rogue on the SG server.


Hmm would you say the same for a VIT rogue? DEX in dagger? Worth it to put STR into gloves? or where ever you can to get more phy attack?


Luna's dagger rogue is almost similar to Ragnarok Online's Assasin.

You pump Dex max, and add Str into equipments.

It will be useless if you only have pure Dex, even if you crit 90% of the time, your crit damage will be low. You need a certain amount of Str to see its power.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby trueonion » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:33 am

shoric wrote:Needs improvement Bionic :/


omg make me laugh Bionic! maybe il start calling bonic like that
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby coyox » Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:50 pm

So.. i wanna be a Thief Full STR xD
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:44 pm

i'll post an update to my guides soon i tested out some stuffs have some results
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby endeavor01 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:44 pm

bonicz wrote:i'll post an update to my guides soon i tested out some stuffs have some results


Iam waiting for the update :P
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:06 pm

stick to the topic guys
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby wuklvn » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:06 pm

Unless I make a dagger with +12 or +18 STR, depending on the level.
But now I'm torn between:
STR rogue with some DEX eq for the chance of crit
DEX rogue with STR eq for the same reason but with evasion and stuff like that
VIT rogue with STR eq and DEX buffs for a tanker with decent damage.
Hmm what to do. My main reason for rogue would be mostly farming.
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby bonicz » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:13 am

i'll update at night i busy reading stuff lol
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Re: Bonic's Rogue to Assassin Guide

Postby suddenspasm » Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:50 pm

Why not make a hybrid build? But not like 1:1 STR:DEX cuz that would just suck, Maybe like lots of str, some dex, or lots of dex, some str
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